I just made a set out of some small sand dollars I picked up off the beach that are the size of small coins. Painted one of the larger ones black. I’ll let you know.
Discovered Lenormands and Sibillas just a few months back after many years of being a Tarot chick and, they’re just neat. I’ve personally enountered three different systems, the Vera Sibilla, the Sibilla Indovina, which is the one I seem to be clicking with, but that might just be a function of more attractive artwork on the cards and… the Gypsy Witch Fortune Telling Playing cards/Maybe Lenormand, which has the most variation from the other two. My guess is that Mlle Lenormand was most likely using plain vanilla playing cards for her readings. They’re an old tried and true, after all.
What do you do with the raw egg after the reading? I don’t think it’ll be a good idea to eat the egg, but I would cook the egg and then discard it, since throwing the raw egg in the garbage can would just go rotten, and the smell would be the worst smell in all of creation! Or maybe a raw egg in the compost bin or garden might be good for the environment, but may attract raccoons and other hungry scavengers.
I’ve been looking to practice some kind of scrying method for awhile. I like that this divination method is similar to crystal scrying and tea leaf reading, but crystal balls are expensive and heavy, and I occasionally drink tea but not often. But I most definitely have a carton of eggs! Eggs have always looked very mystical to me, so I wonder what kind of readings I will get.
The discarding of the egg after divining with it does present a bit of a problem. Adding it to a compost bin or pile is a good solution. You may also want to bury it, if you have access to a yard. If I have no choice but to discard the raw egg in the regular trash, I pour the egg, in its glass of water, through a small sieve, then dump the raw egg onto a sheet of newsprint, on top of which I’ve layered a paper towel or two. This is liberally-sprinkled with baking soda to both kill the smell and discourage would be foragers, then the whole thing is carefully wrapped-up and discarded in the trash.
It seems to me that egg divination should be approached much the same way tea-leaf reading would (a subject I will be getting-to some day). That is, as you gaze at it, you will see certain images in it, or the sight of the egg suspended in water will bring certain things to mind. Unlike tea-leaf reading, where you’re looking into the cup from just one direction, with egg divination, you really ought to look at the glass from every direction, both above and below, as well as looking at the glass 360 degrees around the sides. Something which looks non-existent from the side of the glass may be stunningly apparent when viewed from above or below the glass. Or something you can’t see from one side of the glass will be as plain as day from the other. The marvelous thing about egg divination is its multidimensionality. It can even change slightly over the hours. If you crack the egg into its glass of water the night before, observe how it forms and check on it again in the morning, it’s very-likely to have changed, if only slightly
Finally, I’ll end with a bit of advice I’ll be offering with the tea-leaf reading lesson I’ll write some day–don’t panic when you first look in the glass and see a seemingly-meaningless sploosh of egg (same thing with tea-leaf reading: you look inside the cup and at first, it’s nothing but wet, clumped leaves). Shift your thinking brain to ‘Park’ and just gaze at if for a while; thoughts, ideas and images will start to occur to you. I hope all this helps.
Just as an update, I’ve done egg divination a few times now. It is so beautiful to behold, and it’s interesting to see the images that appear in the glass container, It’s like it’s own little world.
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I wanted to write more, but I submitted my comment prematurely, so I’ll just add more now.
I really enjoyed egg divination. I save as much of the egg as possible for cooking (and eating!), and then I use the leftover egg white that’s still in the shell to do the reading (probably 3 drops worth). I just put it into a glass jar with half a cup to a cup of cold water, and then I wait a half hour before doing the reading. And it’s interesting that I can spin it around to check all sides, to see more images. I mean sometimes I cook more than one egg so I get more leftover eggwhites to do the reading, and I get the best of both worlds (a hearty meal and a good reading!)
Lately when I start daydreaming, I have caught myself scrying things everywhere in the house, like the bathroom tiles with it’s cloud-like marbled patterns, the rainbow soap upon the water’s surface while washing dishes, the shadows that tree branches and leaves cast upon the wall at night, these contained all kinds of images that were helpful. I used to be scared of scrying (I didn’t want to see anything scary!) But I’ve realized that scrying is as fun as looking up at the clouds! The images and the messages they bring are so helpful, so thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. It’s been really useful.
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Thank you for having the time and effort on sharing this amazing blog with us! I’ll probably read more of your articles.
What a great review! This deck is definitely like no other! I acquired the Morgan’s tarot with the idea of coloring the cards as I reflex upon them but I’m hesitant with the semi-glossy surface. What medium have you been using? And which one do you prefer/seems more durable on this deck? Thank you.
I used a large set of colored, Fine-Point Sharpies(tm) to color my Morgan’s Tarot deck. It gives the cards a nice, bold, vivid color, or if needed, a gentler color, depending on the perceived personality of the card you’re coloring. I think colored pencils are largely a FAIL with this deck. Crayons, of course, are just a no. Here’s the key thing about using the Sharpies–after coloring them, you MUST set them aside for three to four days for the ink to dry. Some place where they can lie there undisturbed and untouched. You can then spray them with a coat of clear acrylic spray if you want, just to give the marker-ink another layer of protection, but they seem fine without the acrylic sealer if you wait long-enough for the ink to dry. Of course, this means you won’t be able to use the cards for several days, but the end result makes the delay worth it. You will have a vivid, living deck, full of personality and life. Have fun with this!
I have a question. I asked for messages from Above, and I received 1 – Main Male and 31 – Bad Health, clarified by the bottom of the Deck, 35 – Pathway.
My interpretation is that a male figure in my life is going to pass on. Is that correct, or is there another meaning to this?
That is one possible interpretation. Another could be that, because of the Main Male’s health problem, he may be taking a different pathway in life, possibly going on a journey related to his health problem. The Pathway card is related to the concept of ‘long term’ and suggests the Main Male’s health problem will be here for a while, and something he’ll be wrestling with for some time to come.
Not to be contrary, but some Sibilla cards are “numbered” both “Salons” and “La Vera” use regular playing card suits and numbering. The Gypsy Oracle or Sibilla “Ze…” something isn’t numbered, and that is the one you are using here.
For people learning, I think this is a very important distinction that doesn’t seem to come across in your article. If I missed where that information was put in I do apologize.
I know you did mention there are other versions of the deck. But you state with some conviction that Sibilla cards aren’t numbered and that just isn’t true.
Ah, I was unaware of that. Thank you for setting me straight. And you’re right; it’s an important distinction which I should have been aware of before posting. Clearly I will need to re-visit and revise that article sometime soon.
Checked a few of my posts and I can’t find it. Tell you what–I’ll do a separate mini-lesson on the Six-Card Hungarian Method, it’s a great little lay-out everyone should know.
Love this – such a beautiful wheel! I would interpret ” ‘should I go ahead with my plans?’ or ‘do I have any enemies?’, only to choose the answer ‘you will have a handsome, young, and wealthy man for your partner.’ ” by shifting my focus a little and looking at what a handsome, young and wealthy man symbolises. He sounds wholesome right? So it looks good, but handsome young men are often not mature enough to handle their wealth. So it’s a cautionary path to success, go ahead by all means, there’s a good chance of success, but beware the pitfalls caused by naivety and overconfidence. I used to have real problems finding these sorts of canned answer oracles useful, but since I started working with the European cartomancy decks I just seem to be able to refocus the answer to just about any question by breaking it down that way. Lots of fun!
Good point! I think you’re right about having to shift one’s focus and considering what a pre-set image in a divination tool symbolizes for oneself personally. This is particularly important if you’re dealing with an old divination tool from an earlier century, where they had a slightly-different outlook on life. It doesn’t mean the divination tool in question has nothing of value to say to us, but we may need to adapt or reinterpret the answer.
I now use the Sibilla almost exclusively as it delivers the exact kind of details my clients are looking for. Just as an aside traditionally the significators are the two Lovers (Jack and Queen of Hearts). I recoiled in horror at the thought of using the Soldier as a significator! Totally understand your reasoning though as there is very little out there so it’s a kind of feel your way along experience and of course whatever works for you is the best way to do it! There is a good (debated) book in English called Italian Cartomancy by Alessandra Venturi, which, if it is arguable about whether her method is truly traditional, at least gives a native Italian reader’s take on the Sibilla. It has lots of info not found elsewhere. The problems with it are a) It’s difficult to find and b) she gives no reading methods, just an in-depth look at each card, upright and reversed. Apparently the methods will be explained in the next book, which hasn’t appeared. There’s also some controversy about her traditional meaning of the Peacock or Pridefulness card (2 Clubs). Some traditionalists view this as a highly negative card, but Venturi reads it as one of the most positive cards in the deck. After observing my readings I have found the latter to be the case, but some of her other meanings didn’t ring true to me. However, lacking anything better this is probably the best source on card meanings. I just wish the author would release an ebook version and also publish the next two promised books in the series which deal with the methods and combinations.
I really love this deck, although I use the more traditional version mentioned in the comments above as it has the card values which add to my interpretations. Before I discovered the Venturi book I used to sit and pull 5 cards from the deck before pressing play on a true crime show and seeing if I could figure out the murderer. I learned a lot that way and it’s great fun. Like the tarot the traditional meanings are great to know, but your own observations alongside is the best way to go.
Also I use the line of 5 or 7 mostly, although the 9 card box works well. I hadn’t thought about trying a bigger block, but I’m certainly going to give it a go. I have found that Lenormand techniques such as mirroring work great with the Sibilla too, though I know some people will read this and recoil at THAT 😀
Thank you for the information! That’s what I like about the Sibilla deck, and the Kipper deck as well–they get into the nitty-gritty details of people’s lives. They don’t call for people to do any deep, meditative thought, they just show people what is going on in their world, right here and right now, and that is what most people want, I think. If at all, the Soldier card would be a significator *only* for a very specific sort of client, one who has made a career of the military. I can understand your recoiling at the idea of using it as a significator for anybody.
Sorry! Love to share info and I forgot to say that Venturi also introduced me to the concept of strong and weak suits. Hearts and Spades are strong and Clubs and Diamonds are weak, barring a few exceptions (for example the Peacock being highly fortunate despite being in Clubs). The strong suits overpower the weaker and are given much more prominence in a reading. It helps me pull out nuance for a reading I would never have gotten otherwise. Of course you need the other, more traditional deck, with the card numbers to be able to use this unless you have an excellent memory. And one final tip. There are two versions of the traditional deck, both have the card inserts, but one has the little pictures like we’re used to while the other, made for the Italian market, simply has a letter and the number. This can be confusing for new readers as C is not Clubs it’s Hearts (Cuore), F is Clubs etc so it’s another thing you need to memorise. Much easier for a beginner to get the other deck.
I assume you’re talking about the Fin de Siecle Kipper deck by Ciro Marchetti. Card #37 is Poverty, which could refer to past, present or future poverty, depending on where the card lands in the spread. It can indicate a job which pays so poorly, it isn’t enough to live on. Expenses exceed income. Depending on the cards around it, it can represent poverty of spirit.
Card #38 is Toil & Labour, depicting girls working in a 19th century textile mill. It refers to working hard, long, and exhaustingly for poor rewards, and can refer to a minimum wage job. It could indicate that whatever you want, you will have to work very hard for it–perhaps harder than whatever you want is worth to you.
Card #39 is Community, and depicts three working-class people outside some commercial establishment, such as a pub or restaurant. It can refer to anyplace where people come together for mutual support and fellowship, whether it’s a church, local tavern, public park, a civic center, or the like. It is your support network; no matter how hard life may be, you’ve got support. The cards around it could indicate what sort of support network it is referring-to. I hope all this helps.
I would like to suggest another well researched, more scholarly reference for your readers, “Ogham: The Secret Language of the Druids, by , Rev. Robert “Skip” Ellison. This book was instrumental on helping me with a basis for my divination practice. It is nice that the book is available in both paperback and Kindle versions.
Ellison, Rev. Robert “Skip”. Ogham: The Secret Language of the Druids.
Tuscon, Arizona: ADF Publishing. Copyright 2008, 2014. ISBN:
097656811X ISBN13: 978-0976568117 (Kindle ASIN B00J2EIO26)
“This solidly researched guide to Ogham, the traditional alphabet of Irish poets and loremasters, belongs on the bookshelf of anyone interested in Celtic traditions or modern Druid spirituality. Ellison deserves high praise for a readable and practical introduction to the intricacies of Ogham lore.” — John Michael Greer, author of The Druid Magic Handbook
Rev. Skip Ellison has been a member of Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF) since 1990 and has served on its Mother Grove since 1992. He has held several positions including Chair of the Clergy Council, past Chief of the Magician’s Guild, and is an Archdruid Emeritus of ADF. Rev. Ellison can be reached at: sellison@twcny.rr.com, and his web site can be viewed at http://www.dragonskeepfarm.com.
There is also a free app for Android phones in the Google App Store, Oghamantis, by Rob Henderson, based on this work. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=oracle.ogham) I find this app to be quite useful, as it enables me to have both the Ogham and a quick, if abbreviated, reference with me any time I have my phone. I still prefer the staves I prepared using the wood of the trees each few represents, but for a quick reference it’s hard to beat.
Hi and thank you so much for sharing all these divinations. I have a question. I tried the Kumulak and hat in row 3 – 2/3/2. But I can´t find this combination in the pdf. There are number 30 and 43 which are the same but 2/4/2. Maybe one of them is 2/3/2? Maybe you can help out here. Thanks again.
First, I want to thank you for posing this question. It’s always good for me to make sure I didn’t make a mistake in the PDF. In the case of 2/3/2 in the third line, you will consider only the right-hand 2 and the center 3, disregarding the left-hand 2. So the proper answer there is 43–a rider of water on a horse of air. As for the first line, with its 1/2/3 configuration, you’ll consider only the right-hand 3 and the center 2, disregarding the left-hand 1. So the proper answer there 8–water in the head, wind in the eyes. Whenever there is a conflict like this, only the right-hand column figure and the center column figure are taken into account when translating the result into a prediction. The left-hand column is ignored. Hope this helps.
Thank you for calling this to my attention. I have revised the PDF enbedded in the lesson, so that it includes the Wheel of Fortune itself, the masking wheel and the oracular tables. I apologize for the over-sight.
On behalf of Dr. Jenkins, I can say that he is most impressed and appreciative of your work here. Your work here, along with the beautiful cards (PDF) are simply splendid. He, and all of us at PSIresearcher thank you. With a kind heart, take care.
I was confused with ‘the day of the month you were born’ part until I realized you meant the date. Put it simply:
The DAY I was born on was Monday. The Date was the 15th.
In the book you mention it says ‘add to this the date of the day of the month on which you were born’ and the example in the book the date is used.
Yes, I’m still active. When there is a large gap in my posts, it’s because I’m working on another divination lesson post. If I ever decide to go inactive and end the site, I’ll certainly let everyone know.
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Haven’t seen these since the 70s! Had a lot of fun! Downloaded the PDF. Going to have one sitting on my kitchen counter to play with once in awhile.
I have a question! 😛 so i asked if ill date a certain person and i ended up pulling”Courtship” and “Despair”. Then i asked is Despair related to a certain problem that im facing right now, and i ended up pulling the Mature Woman. Can u interpret this? Thanks in advance!!!!!!
The Mature Woman card refers to an older female. Given the presence of the Despair card in your reading, it could be this older woman disapproves of you in a relationship with this certain person and she may be trying to discourage it from going any further, or even actively interfering in it.
I have re-examined this post, and I think I see the problem the PDF guide to the meanings of the various currencies is at the bottom of page 6 in this lesson, and easy to overlook, and the exercise PDF is near the bottom of page 7. I have looked over the PDF guide itself and it appears to be complete. I hope this helps.
Done! The complete deck, with an updated notation on the box, is now posted. I apologize for the oversight.
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What would the interpreted meaning be if the shells not only form a cross, but the shell in the center of the cross has another shell inside if it, the shell facing southwest had two beads land inside of it, and every shell is concave except for the southeast one? I seem to have yet again come up with an overcomplicated reading.
Wow, that’s an unusual one! My first thought is that something is being emphasized here. Every shell concave except for one is a *strong* message of unexpected good fortune. To have both beads land inside one shell is extraordinary, and my reaction to that is it further emphasizes some strong good luck coming, possibly from the direction of the southwest. Of course, I could be wrong here.
Hello, I looked and couldn’t find a pdf or link on your site
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I have a PDF for the Psychometry Observations Sheet incorporated into the lesson, but I didn’t do a separate downloadable PDF because given the experiential nature of this particular ability, I initially thought it didn’t need one. But on further reflection, if you asked, there may well be others who are wondering the same thing, so I will create a PDF on the key elements of practicing psychometry. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
I am reading the book
A charming book. I eventually purchased a copy myself.
I just made a set out of some small sand dollars I picked up off the beach that are the size of small coins. Painted one of the larger ones black. I’ll let you know.
That sounds like a great idea! Yes, do let me know how it works out.
Discovered Lenormands and Sibillas just a few months back after many years of being a Tarot chick and, they’re just neat. I’ve personally enountered three different systems, the Vera Sibilla, the Sibilla Indovina, which is the one I seem to be clicking with, but that might just be a function of more attractive artwork on the cards and… the Gypsy Witch Fortune Telling Playing cards/Maybe Lenormand, which has the most variation from the other two. My guess is that Mlle Lenormand was most likely using plain vanilla playing cards for her readings. They’re an old tried and true, after all.
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What do you do with the raw egg after the reading? I don’t think it’ll be a good idea to eat the egg, but I would cook the egg and then discard it, since throwing the raw egg in the garbage can would just go rotten, and the smell would be the worst smell in all of creation! Or maybe a raw egg in the compost bin or garden might be good for the environment, but may attract raccoons and other hungry scavengers.
I’ve been looking to practice some kind of scrying method for awhile. I like that this divination method is similar to crystal scrying and tea leaf reading, but crystal balls are expensive and heavy, and I occasionally drink tea but not often. But I most definitely have a carton of eggs! Eggs have always looked very mystical to me, so I wonder what kind of readings I will get.
The discarding of the egg after divining with it does present a bit of a problem. Adding it to a compost bin or pile is a good solution. You may also want to bury it, if you have access to a yard. If I have no choice but to discard the raw egg in the regular trash, I pour the egg, in its glass of water, through a small sieve, then dump the raw egg onto a sheet of newsprint, on top of which I’ve layered a paper towel or two. This is liberally-sprinkled with baking soda to both kill the smell and discourage would be foragers, then the whole thing is carefully wrapped-up and discarded in the trash.
It seems to me that egg divination should be approached much the same way tea-leaf reading would (a subject I will be getting-to some day). That is, as you gaze at it, you will see certain images in it, or the sight of the egg suspended in water will bring certain things to mind. Unlike tea-leaf reading, where you’re looking into the cup from just one direction, with egg divination, you really ought to look at the glass from every direction, both above and below, as well as looking at the glass 360 degrees around the sides. Something which looks non-existent from the side of the glass may be stunningly apparent when viewed from above or below the glass. Or something you can’t see from one side of the glass will be as plain as day from the other. The marvelous thing about egg divination is its multidimensionality. It can even change slightly over the hours. If you crack the egg into its glass of water the night before, observe how it forms and check on it again in the morning, it’s very-likely to have changed, if only slightly
Finally, I’ll end with a bit of advice I’ll be offering with the tea-leaf reading lesson I’ll write some day–don’t panic when you first look in the glass and see a seemingly-meaningless sploosh of egg (same thing with tea-leaf reading: you look inside the cup and at first, it’s nothing but wet, clumped leaves). Shift your thinking brain to ‘Park’ and just gaze at if for a while; thoughts, ideas and images will start to occur to you. I hope all this helps.
Just as an update, I’ve done egg divination a few times now. It is so beautiful to behold, and it’s interesting to see the images that appear in the glass container, It’s like it’s own little world.
I wanted to write more, but I submitted my comment prematurely, so I’ll just add more now.
I really enjoyed egg divination. I save as much of the egg as possible for cooking (and eating!), and then I use the leftover egg white that’s still in the shell to do the reading (probably 3 drops worth). I just put it into a glass jar with half a cup to a cup of cold water, and then I wait a half hour before doing the reading. And it’s interesting that I can spin it around to check all sides, to see more images. I mean sometimes I cook more than one egg so I get more leftover eggwhites to do the reading, and I get the best of both worlds (a hearty meal and a good reading!)
Lately when I start daydreaming, I have caught myself scrying things everywhere in the house, like the bathroom tiles with it’s cloud-like marbled patterns, the rainbow soap upon the water’s surface while washing dishes, the shadows that tree branches and leaves cast upon the wall at night, these contained all kinds of images that were helpful. I used to be scared of scrying (I didn’t want to see anything scary!) But I’ve realized that scrying is as fun as looking up at the clouds! The images and the messages they bring are so helpful, so thank you so much for sharing your knowledge with us. It’s been really useful.
Thank you for having the time and effort on sharing this amazing blog with us! I’ll probably read more of your articles.
Oh, thank you! I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
What a great review! This deck is definitely like no other! I acquired the Morgan’s tarot with the idea of coloring the cards as I reflex upon them but I’m hesitant with the semi-glossy surface. What medium have you been using? And which one do you prefer/seems more durable on this deck? Thank you.
I used a large set of colored, Fine-Point Sharpies(tm) to color my Morgan’s Tarot deck. It gives the cards a nice, bold, vivid color, or if needed, a gentler color, depending on the perceived personality of the card you’re coloring. I think colored pencils are largely a FAIL with this deck. Crayons, of course, are just a no. Here’s the key thing about using the Sharpies–after coloring them, you MUST set them aside for three to four days for the ink to dry. Some place where they can lie there undisturbed and untouched. You can then spray them with a coat of clear acrylic spray if you want, just to give the marker-ink another layer of protection, but they seem fine without the acrylic sealer if you wait long-enough for the ink to dry. Of course, this means you won’t be able to use the cards for several days, but the end result makes the delay worth it. You will have a vivid, living deck, full of personality and life. Have fun with this!
I have a question. I asked for messages from Above, and I received 1 – Main Male and 31 – Bad Health, clarified by the bottom of the Deck, 35 – Pathway.
My interpretation is that a male figure in my life is going to pass on. Is that correct, or is there another meaning to this?
That is one possible interpretation. Another could be that, because of the Main Male’s health problem, he may be taking a different pathway in life, possibly going on a journey related to his health problem. The Pathway card is related to the concept of ‘long term’ and suggests the Main Male’s health problem will be here for a while, and something he’ll be wrestling with for some time to come.
Not to be contrary, but some Sibilla cards are “numbered” both “Salons” and “La Vera” use regular playing card suits and numbering. The Gypsy Oracle or Sibilla “Ze…” something isn’t numbered, and that is the one you are using here.
For people learning, I think this is a very important distinction that doesn’t seem to come across in your article. If I missed where that information was put in I do apologize.
I know you did mention there are other versions of the deck. But you state with some conviction that Sibilla cards aren’t numbered and that just isn’t true.
Ah, I was unaware of that. Thank you for setting me straight. And you’re right; it’s an important distinction which I should have been aware of before posting. Clearly I will need to re-visit and revise that article sometime soon.
Hello.
Where ist the Six-Card Hungarian lay-out?
Oh, let me check.
Checked a few of my posts and I can’t find it. Tell you what–I’ll do a separate mini-lesson on the Six-Card Hungarian Method, it’s a great little lay-out everyone should know.
I think we may be knowledge twins. Discovered the site tonight and there’s SO much stuff on here! Working my way through it!
I’m glad you’re enjoying wading through my website! I hope you find some of it useful.
Love this – such a beautiful wheel! I would interpret ” ‘should I go ahead with my plans?’ or ‘do I have any enemies?’, only to choose the answer ‘you will have a handsome, young, and wealthy man for your partner.’ ” by shifting my focus a little and looking at what a handsome, young and wealthy man symbolises. He sounds wholesome right? So it looks good, but handsome young men are often not mature enough to handle their wealth. So it’s a cautionary path to success, go ahead by all means, there’s a good chance of success, but beware the pitfalls caused by naivety and overconfidence. I used to have real problems finding these sorts of canned answer oracles useful, but since I started working with the European cartomancy decks I just seem to be able to refocus the answer to just about any question by breaking it down that way. Lots of fun!
Good point! I think you’re right about having to shift one’s focus and considering what a pre-set image in a divination tool symbolizes for oneself personally. This is particularly important if you’re dealing with an old divination tool from an earlier century, where they had a slightly-different outlook on life. It doesn’t mean the divination tool in question has nothing of value to say to us, but we may need to adapt or reinterpret the answer.
I now use the Sibilla almost exclusively as it delivers the exact kind of details my clients are looking for. Just as an aside traditionally the significators are the two Lovers (Jack and Queen of Hearts). I recoiled in horror at the thought of using the Soldier as a significator! Totally understand your reasoning though as there is very little out there so it’s a kind of feel your way along experience and of course whatever works for you is the best way to do it! There is a good (debated) book in English called Italian Cartomancy by Alessandra Venturi, which, if it is arguable about whether her method is truly traditional, at least gives a native Italian reader’s take on the Sibilla. It has lots of info not found elsewhere. The problems with it are a) It’s difficult to find and b) she gives no reading methods, just an in-depth look at each card, upright and reversed. Apparently the methods will be explained in the next book, which hasn’t appeared. There’s also some controversy about her traditional meaning of the Peacock or Pridefulness card (2 Clubs). Some traditionalists view this as a highly negative card, but Venturi reads it as one of the most positive cards in the deck. After observing my readings I have found the latter to be the case, but some of her other meanings didn’t ring true to me. However, lacking anything better this is probably the best source on card meanings. I just wish the author would release an ebook version and also publish the next two promised books in the series which deal with the methods and combinations.
I really love this deck, although I use the more traditional version mentioned in the comments above as it has the card values which add to my interpretations. Before I discovered the Venturi book I used to sit and pull 5 cards from the deck before pressing play on a true crime show and seeing if I could figure out the murderer. I learned a lot that way and it’s great fun. Like the tarot the traditional meanings are great to know, but your own observations alongside is the best way to go.
Also I use the line of 5 or 7 mostly, although the 9 card box works well. I hadn’t thought about trying a bigger block, but I’m certainly going to give it a go. I have found that Lenormand techniques such as mirroring work great with the Sibilla too, though I know some people will read this and recoil at THAT 😀
Thank you for the information! That’s what I like about the Sibilla deck, and the Kipper deck as well–they get into the nitty-gritty details of people’s lives. They don’t call for people to do any deep, meditative thought, they just show people what is going on in their world, right here and right now, and that is what most people want, I think. If at all, the Soldier card would be a significator *only* for a very specific sort of client, one who has made a career of the military. I can understand your recoiling at the idea of using it as a significator for anybody.
Sorry! Love to share info and I forgot to say that Venturi also introduced me to the concept of strong and weak suits. Hearts and Spades are strong and Clubs and Diamonds are weak, barring a few exceptions (for example the Peacock being highly fortunate despite being in Clubs). The strong suits overpower the weaker and are given much more prominence in a reading. It helps me pull out nuance for a reading I would never have gotten otherwise. Of course you need the other, more traditional deck, with the card numbers to be able to use this unless you have an excellent memory. And one final tip. There are two versions of the traditional deck, both have the card inserts, but one has the little pictures like we’re used to while the other, made for the Italian market, simply has a letter and the number. This can be confusing for new readers as C is not Clubs it’s Hearts (Cuore), F is Clubs etc so it’s another thing you need to memorise. Much easier for a beginner to get the other deck.
Can you tell me what cards 37-39 mean please. ?
I assume you’re talking about the Fin de Siecle Kipper deck by Ciro Marchetti. Card #37 is Poverty, which could refer to past, present or future poverty, depending on where the card lands in the spread. It can indicate a job which pays so poorly, it isn’t enough to live on. Expenses exceed income. Depending on the cards around it, it can represent poverty of spirit.
Card #38 is Toil & Labour, depicting girls working in a 19th century textile mill. It refers to working hard, long, and exhaustingly for poor rewards, and can refer to a minimum wage job. It could indicate that whatever you want, you will have to work very hard for it–perhaps harder than whatever you want is worth to you.
Card #39 is Community, and depicts three working-class people outside some commercial establishment, such as a pub or restaurant. It can refer to anyplace where people come together for mutual support and fellowship, whether it’s a church, local tavern, public park, a civic center, or the like. It is your support network; no matter how hard life may be, you’ve got support. The cards around it could indicate what sort of support network it is referring-to. I hope all this helps.
I would like to suggest another well researched, more scholarly reference for your readers, “Ogham: The Secret Language of the Druids, by , Rev. Robert “Skip” Ellison. This book was instrumental on helping me with a basis for my divination practice. It is nice that the book is available in both paperback and Kindle versions.
Ellison, Rev. Robert “Skip”. Ogham: The Secret Language of the Druids.
Tuscon, Arizona: ADF Publishing. Copyright 2008, 2014. ISBN:
097656811X ISBN13: 978-0976568117 (Kindle ASIN B00J2EIO26)
“This solidly researched guide to Ogham, the traditional alphabet of Irish poets and loremasters, belongs on the bookshelf of anyone interested in Celtic traditions or modern Druid spirituality. Ellison deserves high praise for a readable and practical introduction to the intricacies of Ogham lore.” — John Michael Greer, author of The Druid Magic Handbook
Rev. Skip Ellison has been a member of Ár nDraíocht Féin (ADF) since 1990 and has served on its Mother Grove since 1992. He has held several positions including Chair of the Clergy Council, past Chief of the Magician’s Guild, and is an Archdruid Emeritus of ADF. Rev. Ellison can be reached at: sellison@twcny.rr.com, and his web site can be viewed at http://www.dragonskeepfarm.com.
There is also a free app for Android phones in the Google App Store, Oghamantis, by Rob Henderson, based on this work. (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=oracle.ogham) I find this app to be quite useful, as it enables me to have both the Ogham and a quick, if abbreviated, reference with me any time I have my phone. I still prefer the staves I prepared using the wood of the trees each few represents, but for a quick reference it’s hard to beat.
Hi and thank you so much for sharing all these divinations. I have a question. I tried the Kumulak and hat in row 3 – 2/3/2. But I can´t find this combination in the pdf. There are number 30 and 43 which are the same but 2/4/2. Maybe one of them is 2/3/2? Maybe you can help out here. Thanks again.
First, I want to thank you for posing this question. It’s always good for me to make sure I didn’t make a mistake in the PDF. In the case of 2/3/2 in the third line, you will consider only the right-hand 2 and the center 3, disregarding the left-hand 2. So the proper answer there is 43–a rider of water on a horse of air. As for the first line, with its 1/2/3 configuration, you’ll consider only the right-hand 3 and the center 2, disregarding the left-hand 1. So the proper answer there 8–water in the head, wind in the eyes. Whenever there is a conflict like this, only the right-hand column figure and the center column figure are taken into account when translating the result into a prediction. The left-hand column is ignored. Hope this helps.
Sry I mean Nr 46 not 43 in my comment before. And I also can´t find in the first row the combination of 1/2/3 vom right to left. What now?
hello, do you happen to have a pdf of the wheel too? i can only download the tables. thanks!
Thank you for calling this to my attention. I have revised the PDF enbedded in the lesson, so that it includes the Wheel of Fortune itself, the masking wheel and the oracular tables. I apologize for the over-sight.
On behalf of Dr. Jenkins, I can say that he is most impressed and appreciative of your work here. Your work here, along with the beautiful cards (PDF) are simply splendid. He, and all of us at PSIresearcher thank you. With a kind heart, take care.
Oh, thank you! I’m glad you like it!
I was confused with ‘the day of the month you were born’ part until I realized you meant the date. Put it simply:
The DAY I was born on was Monday. The Date was the 15th.
In the book you mention it says ‘add to this the date of the day of the month on which you were born’ and the example in the book the date is used.
Sorry for the confusion. I may have to re-write that part one of these days.
Are you still active around this site?
Hi are you still around?
Yes, I’m still active. When there is a large gap in my posts, it’s because I’m working on another divination lesson post. If I ever decide to go inactive and end the site, I’ll certainly let everyone know.
Haven’t seen these since the 70s! Had a lot of fun! Downloaded the PDF. Going to have one sitting on my kitchen counter to play with once in awhile.
Glad you’re enjoying this blast from the past! It’s when we’re relaxed and having fun that true answers can come through clearly.
Hello, If my potency number is 33, but it is not on the chart, then how do I interpret that?
Try breaking it down into 30 and 3, then combining the two into one answer.
… Where’s the rest of it?
I will double-check that PDF. Thank you for calling this to my attention.
I will check that PDF. Thank you for calling this to my attention.
I have a question! 😛 so i asked if ill date a certain person and i ended up pulling”Courtship” and “Despair”. Then i asked is Despair related to a certain problem that im facing right now, and i ended up pulling the Mature Woman. Can u interpret this? Thanks in advance!!!!!!
The Mature Woman card refers to an older female. Given the presence of the Despair card in your reading, it could be this older woman disapproves of you in a relationship with this certain person and she may be trying to discourage it from going any further, or even actively interfering in it.
I have re-examined this post, and I think I see the problem the PDF guide to the meanings of the various currencies is at the bottom of page 6 in this lesson, and easy to overlook, and the exercise PDF is near the bottom of page 7. I have looked over the PDF guide itself and it appears to be complete. I hope this helps.
Can you please share it? I can only find it incomplete and I love this deck, I’m feeling very connected to it.
I’ll double-check that posting and reload. Thank you for calling this to my attention.
Done! The complete deck, with an updated notation on the box, is now posted. I apologize for the oversight.
What would the interpreted meaning be if the shells not only form a cross, but the shell in the center of the cross has another shell inside if it, the shell facing southwest had two beads land inside of it, and every shell is concave except for the southeast one? I seem to have yet again come up with an overcomplicated reading.
Wow, that’s an unusual one! My first thought is that something is being emphasized here. Every shell concave except for one is a *strong* message of unexpected good fortune. To have both beads land inside one shell is extraordinary, and my reaction to that is it further emphasizes some strong good luck coming, possibly from the direction of the southwest. Of course, I could be wrong here.
I scored pretty high on the tests I look forward to reading to adding to my practice of Hydromancy when you get to it
I recently saw a four directions field chart on your site. Do you sell a pdf of that chart. It was labeled under simplomancy.
You can just go ahead and download it, since I’m not charging for it. Not yet anyway.
Hello, I looked and couldn’t find a pdf or link on your site
I have a PDF for the Psychometry Observations Sheet incorporated into the lesson, but I didn’t do a separate downloadable PDF because given the experiential nature of this particular ability, I initially thought it didn’t need one. But on further reflection, if you asked, there may well be others who are wondering the same thing, so I will create a PDF on the key elements of practicing psychometry. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.